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Art Lessons – Methods for finding pleasing compositions (Aaron’s Art Tips Season 2 E17)
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love your videos, you’re extremely helpful. Thank you!
Best tutorial i’ve ever seen on these technical approaches to composition!
I love how you emphasize the “feeling it” part and that it mostly just
happens to fit. Well done Sir! Thank you!
Thanks for posting this. The only video I could find that shows real world
examples and the golden ratio. Perfect explanation. If you have more to add
to this, make another video.
Aaron — you ROCK — God bless you!
thank you so much for this. i try so hard to understand measuring of golden
ratio, but your video make me clear. the important point i get it is … we
can stretch ratio and break down part by part to get focus point … i am
right please?
actually i confused using golden ration when work at square artboart (i am
logo designer)
Aaron, thanks for the great video.
I have a couple of questions and don’t have a wacom and have windows.
1. How do you create the templates in photoshop for both the golden mean
and the Rule of thirds?
2. How do you feel about standard size canvases and using the golden mean?
Thanks
I think on the last painting the golden ratio would fall in the negative
space between the tiger and the butterfly – the center of interest!
Thank you sir! I was very confused about this golden ratio. But now I know
some of this rule.
this was really interesting! I never thought about it like that, you are up
to something good with this, and reminded me of sacred geometry, thank you
It’s very cool that overlaying the golden ratio syncs up to a lot of art,
but If you’re skewing the golden ratio to overlay the canvas, wouldn’t it
no longer be the golden ratio? Or would it still be the golden ratio, just
skewed?
Golden Ratio Analysis of Ancient Art and Architecture
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9cP6ZKA_IZs5Byf0TnDuVA
Much of this information is inaccurate. There is no evidence that Leonardo
Da Vinci used the Golden Ratio in any of his work—let alone
‘exclusively’. The confusion often stems from Leonardo’s relationship to
Luca Pacioli. Leonardo created the illustrations for Pacoli’s book, “De
Divina Proportione” (The Divine Proportion) It was written around 1497 and
first published in 1509.
As far as the aesthetic advantages of other popular geometrical heuristics
(Rule of thirds, rule of fifths): They have been wholly debunked by
empirical study. “The wellknown “rule of thirds” compositional heuristic
may seem consistent with this inward bias, but it is not sufficient to
account for other results. The rule of thirds states that the focal object
should be placed at one of the four points of intersection created when the
frame is divided into equal thirds horizontally and vertically (e.g.,
Smith, 1797; Field, 1845). It clearly implies that the subject should not
be placed at (or even near) the center of the frame either horizontally or
vertically, but at or near the thirdpoints, which are distinctly
offcenter. Nevertheless, the maximal preference for forwardfacing
symmetrical objects is clearly at the center (Palmer, Gardner, and Wickens,
2008), thus contradicting the primary tenet of the rule of thirds”.
Aesthetic Issues in Spatial Composition: Effects of Vertical Position and
Perspective on Framing Single Objects by Jonathan Sammartino and Stephen E.
Palmer, University of California, Berkeley.
I recommend reading the full above mentioned study as well as the many
other studies available via Palmer Lab/UC Berkley to understand why these
geometric heuristics are nonsensical.
it is more like advertising his art work!
Just for historical reasons. The golden ratio or phi from the Greek letter
φ was first employed by Phidias, a very famous Greek sculptor who had the
general supervision during the construction of Parthenon and had charge of
the sculptural decoration . it’s equal to (a+b)/a=a/b=1.618. Phi (φ) was
also used by Pythagoras and of course Euclid………. (you can read about
it in “Euclid’s Elements” )
I have a Wacom Cintiq and have only ever managed to draw sketches with it,
mainly from not knowing how photoshop works. I just found your channel
while looking for time lapse videos to show me how to colour in. I love
your content and have been flicking through all your videos. They’re
incredibly useful and easy to understand. I’m in awe of your art and hope
to learn a lot off you. Subscribed.
Thanx for posting! Great explanation! I love art!
Very good and very helpful. Thank you.
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Usually we change our images to fit the golden ratio, you are distorting
the golden ratio to fit your images.
Just approaching these rules is enough to find pleasing compositions, you
do not need to cut and distort the rulers to pretend an explanation.
Your last image with the tiger, for example, fits the symmetry composition
rule (between the tiger and the reflection if u cut the image in half). You
do not need to try to explain it using another composition scheme like the
golden ratio.
thank you – great lesson!
You are awesome, the way you explain is pretty darn simple
We went through this in math class but I never thought about applying it to
my art. I’ll definitely keep this in mind when thumbnailing later, it is
really helpful. Love your videos!
You can’t force the golden ratio to fit something in that way. If you
distort it, break it down or shift it, then you can justify literally any
composition within the rules of the golden ratio, good or bad. Sometimes it
fits, sometimes it doesn’t – that’s just that. They are guidelines, not
rules. And on that note you can use these guidelines to help your decisions
if you’re having trouble – for eg. the lioness standing to the left looking
right over the savanna. Your composition was more or less appealing, but
had you fitted your drawing to the mathematics a priori then you may have
ended up with an even better composition than you actually did. Or, even
so, maybe not. From there we could go onto debate subjectivity… but I
think you get my meaning.
Ugh, more rule of thirds, power points, and the golden spiral being used
inappropriately :/ My heart is in pain right now. Composition can’t be
summed up to plotting your subject on a specific point. I’ve got several
videos that will debunk the mythical power of ROT.
This theory/concept/rule/guideline/method has mesmerized me for years and I
have a very good grasp of it’s application in my art. As well, you have
explained it exceedingly well here. I also feel that there is more to this
than meets our eye. (No pun intended.) Haven’t figured out exactly what
that is yet, but my theory supposes that it also has something to with
three dimensions, as they are perceived on a two dimensional surface, well
as the arrangement of single subject matter(s) onto a flat surface. An
excellent video, sir! It truly makes me think about what makes “good”
composition and what makes “masterful” composition. Cheers! John F Willis
thank you ; but why tou change proportions ?
Very confusing explanation of golden rule
You can’t just squash the spiral to fit your liking because in doing this
you lose the ratio that you so desire.
Great video. Thank you. Your web site doesn’t do anything. I subscribed, it
said I could down load an elephant video but it would not download. I could
check out your stuff and it was okay.
Isn’t it 1,68 with the golden ratio?
Dude… Thats not how the Fibonacci spiral / golden ratio works. you’re
messing with the rule to justify your compositions but mate that isn’t how
it goes
Thats not how the golden ratio works…
When you “freetransformed” you distorted the golden ratio. It’s wise to
study the golden ratio first and then paint, not the other way round.
Hi, Great Video! Where can I find those Golden Spiral layers to import into
my projects?
Sir you explained about the compositions. That’s great! But should be the
right size and ratio of the image? Could you kindly explain that?
Very helpful. What program do you use to overlay the golden ratio and the
rule of thirds onto your artwork?
Aaron, if you start manipulating these rules, ratios to fit your
photographs, etc…they are not going to work. Some of your pictures that
you showed would have worked, if only you cropped them. For example, the
Leopard or the Lion & the Butterfly…try cropping the body of the leopard,
you’ll see that excess area isn’t really pleasing to the eye (at least to
mine) , and again, the lion & butterfly, try cropping the right side,
you’ll make a better (and pleasing to the eye) composition, I bet the Rules
of 3rds and Golden Ratio are going to work. This is my humble opinion.